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\u201cThe Lord has given me the gift of painting to bring his message into the world through color\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

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Natalia Tsarkova in her studio.<\/p><\/div>\n

Immediately after the public audience on Wednesday, December 18, you presented Pope Francis with your latest artwork: a double papal portrait on paper, depicting Pope Francis and Emeritus Pope Benedict praying together. This was your first meeting. What were your impressions of him?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Natalia Tsarkova: I was supposed to present the double portrait in June, but it seemed too close to Pope<\/em> Francis\u2019 election. Besides, his part of the portrait wasn\u2019t quite ready. So I asked for a postponement. My first impression was Pope Francis\u2019 sensibility, his warmth, yet his moral fortitude.<\/p>\n

What did he say about your drawing?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> He smiled and thanked me, but was so emotionally choked (and so was I) that I don\u2019t remember his saying anything else. My drawing was a surprise; he wasn\u2019t expecting it. I told him it was for his birthday, which had been the day before, and explained how its inspiration had come to me.<\/p>\n

Your drawing depicts Popes Francis and Benedict XVI praying together on March 23, 2013, the day Pope Francis visited the Pope Emeritus at Castel Gandolfo. Can you explain its inspiration also to us?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> I believe the Holy Spirit usually inspires my artwork, especially my religious subjects. But I think the Madonna inspired this double portrait. As soon as I saw the news on TV, I made two different versions: one of the Popes embracing on the helicopter pad and one of them praying together.<\/p>\n

As you may remember, when the two Popes went into the chapel, Benedict gestured to Pope Francis to sit down on the papal chair, but Pope Francis said no and with great humility suggested that they pray together. It was as if they knew to leave the papal chair empty for the Blessed Mother. First I drew the Popes and then Our Lady, who\u2019s blessing them. She\u2019s also their inspiration. As soon as I had this idea, I was overwhelmed by emotion and so knew it was what I should draw. I realized immediately, before the two Popes exchanged gifts, that this Madonna was the Madonna of Humility. Then, at the end of their prayers, miraculously Pope Francis gave Benedict a Russian icon of the Madonna of Humility, given to him by the Russian Patriarch Kirill to wish him good luck for his papacy and brought to Rome by Metropolitan Hilarion, Bob\u2019s friend. At the four corners I drew the iconography of the four evangelists.<\/p>\n

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Portrait of John Paul II.<\/p><\/div>\n

Is it the only artwork of the two Popes together?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova: <\/em>Yes, as far as I know.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve painted portraits of the last four Popes: one of John Paul I after his death, three of John Paul II, and three of Benedict if you count the recent drawing with Pope Francis. Do you have a commission to paint a portrait of Pope Francis alone?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> No, I\u2019m studying him. I have to read everything he\u2019s written to portray his personality. When I paint a portrait, I study in depth the biography, the writings, personal aspects like special occasions, hobbies, likes and dislikes, of my subject before I start drawing. Often I paint my official portraits using videos; with Popes John Paul II and Benedict, I made lots of drawings of them in person during events, audiences, Masses, but their vestments were always brought to my studio so I could portray their textures. (I studied Pope Benedict for a year before I started my first portrait of him). Usually I start by drawing several sketches on paper with a pencil, pen or charcoal; then with different color oil paints, still on paper, before moving to my easel and the canvas. I then draw the whole idea first with charcoal. I follow this by painting over the charcoal with black and white oils and then do the final painting with colors. I use the same methods as most of the Renaissance painters. I get official approval at every step before proceeding. Oh my goodness, you\u2019re uncovering all my secrets! Help!<\/p>\n

Every portrait is commissioned differently. For example, the Knights of Columbus commissioned the portrait of Pope John II in Washington, D.C.; the Vatican Museums\u2019 Patrons of the Arts commissioned the seated, full-length one of Pope Benedict.<\/p>\n

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Portrait of Benedict XVI.<\/p><\/div>\n

What about your recent drawing of the two Popes?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> Nobody commissioned it. I worked from the television videos that were repeated over and over again. It took me a day to complete the Popes\u2019 portraits and about three full days to complete the whole drawing except final touches. Very fast! Pope Francis is very intense, whereas Benedict seems at peace finally. They\u2019re grey because it\u2019s pencil. I drew the rest with red chalk, the color of Christ\u2019s blood, of love and of Christian faith. It\u2019s too early to know where it will be displayed, maybe in the Museums.<\/p>\n

In a RAI video of April 28, 2012, you say that a portrait is a symbol with a message; what\u2019s the message of your dual portrait?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> Freedom of thought, humility, spirituality, fraternity, friendship, love, and the Madonna\u2019s blessing of Francis\u2019 papacy and of the Church.<\/p>\n

You\u2019re working here in your studio on a painting of St. George killing the dragon, which you\u2019ve just told me was inspired by the Holy Spirit and is for you. Why St. George?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> He\u2019s the patron saint of Moscow where I was born. I still have to finish the dragon and insert the right horse.<\/p>\n

You have two paintings in the USA: a portrait of John Paul II at the John Paul II shrine in Washington, D.C., and La Madonna della Speranza<\/em> (2004) at the Primavera Fine Art Foundation in Norcross, Georgia. Correct?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova<\/em>: Yes, except that the Madonna of Hope<\/em> has traveled extensively in the States. Before leaving Rome, during Christmastime of 2004\/5, Pope John Paul II hung it in his personal library. He invited me there to explain its iconography and my intended message. He was very ill and could no longer speak, but the room was full of light emanating from him. It was the last time I saw him. Alongside the Madonna I\u2019ve painted four angels. They represent the four sets of mysteries of the Rosary: joyful, sorrowful, luminous, and glorious.<\/p>\n

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The cover and two pages of Il mistero di un piccolo stagno (The Mystery of the Little Pool) published by the Vatican Publishing House (Photo: Coen)<\/p><\/div>\n

You\u2019ve recently published a book entitled Il mistero di un piccolo stagno (The Mystery of the Little Pool)<\/em> about a baby goldfish named \u201cBianco\u201d (\u201cWhite\u201d) who lives in a fountain at Castel Gandolfo and is fed every afternoon by a man dressed in white. What inspired this idea? Did you write it directly in Italian or in Russian first? What\u2019s its message?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> In the gardens at Castel Gandolfo there\u2019s an area called \u201cthe little garden with a goldfish pond and a statue of the Madonna delle Grazie.<\/em>\u201d A path lined with ancient olive trees leads there. I love the peaceful atmosphere and the light. So did Popes John Paul II and nature-lover Benedict, who came there to pray and feed the goldfish every afternoon with Archbishop Georg G\u00e4nswein. I was going through a difficult financial period so when a baby goldfish jumped out of the water toward me, I felt this was a Godsend, and so the story narrated by the baby goldfish was born. Its message is to find and love God through prayer. I wrote it in one sitting directly in Italian as a language exercise. It\u2019s now part of the first-grade religion program in many elementary schools. It\u2019s like a children\u2019s catechism.<\/p>\n

Archbishop G\u00e4nswein wrote the preface and presided over its presentation, which took place just a week before my presentation of my double portrait. At the book\u2019s presentation, His Excellency said something that moved me greatly: that each time he\u2019d read the book he\u2019d discovered a new message.<\/p>\n

I\u2019d presented an album with my original illustrations to Pope Benedict XVI on Easter Monday 2012 at Castel Gandolfo, of course, because that\u2019s where the story takes place. Although very tired from his recent trip to Cuba and the Easter celebrations, Pope Benedict was very pleased. Afterward, Archbishop G\u00e4nswein told me that he hadn\u2019t seen the Holy Father so relaxed and joyful in a long time.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve also written a screenplay. When and where will it be shown?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> It was performed at a festival called Arte e Fede<\/em> (\u201cArt and Faith\u201d) last May in Orvieto, where I also first presented the book. I\u2019ve also received a proposal to turn it into a cartoon.<\/p>\n

Are you writing another book?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> Yes, another fable loosely based on St. Francis of Assisi in honor of Pope Francis. It\u2019s much longer than The Mystery of the Little Pool.<\/em> I\u2019m writing it in Russian. It\u2019s a work-in-progress so I don\u2019t want to say anything more.<\/p>\n

Your website <\/strong>www.nataliatsarkova.net<\/em> includes many of your works of art not in your brochure, but still in your collection. Are any for sale?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> Yes, maybe, but some are so much part of my life that it would be hard for me to part with them.<\/p>\n

How can someone commission a painting from you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tsarkova:<\/em> Through my website, but I seldom do private commissions except official portraits.<\/p>\n

(Lucy Gordan published another ITV interview, \u201cNatalia Tsarkova: There\u2019s a Light Inside the Holy Father,\u201d in April 2005.)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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